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Deuteronomy 4:9-12
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9 “Only give heed to yourself and keep your soul diligently, so that you do not forget the things which your eyes have seen and they do not depart from your heart all the days of your life; but make them known to your sons and your grandsons. 10 Remember the day you stood before the Lord your God at Horeb, when the Lord said to me, ‘Assemble the people to Me, that I may let them hear My words so they may learn to fear Me all the days they live on the earth, and that they may teach their children.’ 11 You came near and stood at the foot of the mountain, and the mountain burned with fire to the very heart of the heavens: darkness, cloud and thick gloom. 12 Then the Lord spoke to you from the midst of the fire; you heard the sound of words, but you saw no form—only a voice.
Are images that attempt to portray Jesus idolatrous? I have been thinking about this for a long time. Today, in Evangelical and Fundamental churches, much of the teaching on idolatry centers on Paul’s statement that covetousness is idolatry (Colossians 3:5), or condemns the exaltation of anything in our lives that takes the place of God. But what about the literal making and using of images of Jesus?
Jesus Christ
isn’t an illustration in a Children’s Bible,
a doll in a manger,
a flannelgraph, stained glass,
statue in a cemetery,
actor,
or appealing sketch of a laughing man.
He isn’t even the central figure
in an amazing mural
in our nation’s Capitol.
All of these things are lies that diminish
our understanding of the Lord and of walking by faith.
Bible-believing Christians are using so-called pictures of Jesus on blogs, in videos, movies, emails, and even on T-shirts. Please study this issue prayerfully. It isn’t a trivial thing. The question is: If we use them, can we call ourselves Bible-believers? May the Lord never say this about us:
Hosea 4:17
17 Ephraim is joined to idols;
Let him alone.
Being Biblical
What does God’s Word teach about this? Here are some important passages:
We are not to make images and likenesses. Exodus 20:4-6
Whoever keeps the whole law, yet offends in one point, is guilty of breaking the entire law. James 2:9-11
Obedience to God is love for Him. John 14:21
True worshipers worship the Father in spirit and in truth. John 4:22-24
We walk by faith, not by sight. 2 Corinthians 5:6-8
A side note – An accusation, and a little about old arguments
Awhile back, in preparing this I came across a blog that leveled a very old charge against Christians who object to images of Jesus. This is the charge: That because of the Incarnation, if we say that He should not be depicted, we are denying His humanity. But I confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh – that He is God in the flesh – but also affirm that because images of God are forbidden, and since Jesus Christ is God, that therefore images of Him should not be made.
Another old argument strikes a blow at making these images. It argues that because God the Son is both God and Man it is impossible to portray Him, for His Deity can never be portrayed.
Romans 8:24
24 For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees?
Being reasonable
1) We can’t know how Jesus looked during His earthly ministry – no artist is capable of doing this. The prophet Isaiah, and John in Revelation, described some of Jesus’ characteristics. Here is Isaiah’s description, which reveals a negative, that the Lord wasn’t handsome as so many images picture Him:
Isaiah 53:1-3
1 Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
3 He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
In Revelation, John described what He saw, the Lord Jesus Christ as He is now, having risen from the dead and ascended to the Father; not as He looked when He fed the 5,000, or walked on the waves of the sea. (Seeing the Lord as He is now would make us fall at His feet as if dead, just as John did.)
Revelation 1:13-15
13 and in the middle of the lampstands I saw one like a son of man, clothed in a robe reaching to the feet, and girded across His chest with a golden sash. 14 His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire. 15 His feet were like burnished bronze, when it has been made to glow in a furnace, and His voice was like the sound of many waters.
2) Particular depictions of Jesus may appeal to us but repel others.
Having concern for the lost
You probably don’t worship images, kiss them, or bow before them in prayer – but some people do and think that this is right worship. Do you want to stand with them in darkness, or be a light to them? Do you want to preach Christ crucified to them, or offer them a lie?
1 Peter 1:8-9
8 and though you have not seen Him, you love Him, and though you do not see Him now, but believe in Him, you greatly rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls.
Being honest
I’ve tried not to be discouraged by the seeming blindness of Christians to the obligations of the second commandment, but it is difficult when even mature Christians dismiss them. After studying and praying, I can see that there is no ultimate argument that will convince others, who in many ways are better Christians than I – only the Lord can convince and convict. May He pity us! May He help us to get ready for His return! And may we find comfort in the knowledge that someday He Himself will destroy these things.
Isaiah 2:17-21
17 The pride of man will be humbled
And the loftiness of men will be abased;
And the Lord alone will be exalted in that day,
18 But the idols will completely vanish.
19 Men will go into caves of the rocks
And into holes of the ground
Before the terror of the Lord
And the splendor of His majesty,
When He arises to make the earth tremble.
20 In that day men will cast away to the moles and the bats
Their idols of silver and their idols of gold,
Which they made for themselves to worship,
21 In order to go into the caverns of the rocks and the clefts of the cliffs
Before the terror of the Lord and the splendor of His majesty,
When He arises to make the earth tremble.Isaiah 33:22
22 For the Lord is our judge,
The Lord is our lawgiver,
The Lord is our king;
He will save us—
For further study
Idolatry Condemned – “J. Vernon McGee on Pictures of Jesus and Idolatry”
IdolatryCondemned YouTube channel – “On God’s Covenant to Save His People From Idolatry”
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Hi Maria, I hope you are well.:0) As a painter, this is a subject I have considered, as well. As an artist who enjoys using both words and pictures to communicate with others, I tend to view both words and pictures as tools. The Bible is always correct and we should not make images, or idols, and bow down to worship them. It’s also, true that none of us know what Jesus looked like and also, true that most of us recognize Him as He is represented in art. Just like we recognize the word ‘Jesus’ as representing He who is both God and man. It is also, wrong to worship the Bible, the written representation of God the Father and Jesus. I came to the conclusion that it is how pictures are used that is important. In a world of increasing illiteracy, a piece of good Christian art can go a long way in depicting what it means to have a relationship with Christ as well as, teach Biblical, historic facts. Having said all this, I think those Christian artists must think of themselves as teachers, as well as artists, and approach the work of creating any work representing the life of Jesus Christ with fear and trembling. We should do the same when viewing their work.
Pam
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Hi, Pam! It’s been a long time since I’ve spoken with you. Hope you’re well!
Obedience is love for the Lord. To honor His Word is right. You are accusing faithfulness to His Word as being worship of it. Orthodox Christians say this, that Bible Christians are worshipping the written Word – logolatria, they accuse us of.
Someone is more likely to cause a person to stumble with an image of the Lord than to edify or convince them.
You wrote, “It’s also, true that none of us know what Jesus looked like and also, true that most of us recognize Him as He is represented in art. Just like we recognize the word ‘Jesus’ as representing He who is both God and man.” But these images are manmade – they come from our imaginations. Our culture has ended up manufacturing a universally recognized image for Him but that image has nothing to do with Him. It is in no way like His Name representing both His Deity and humanity.
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I love you, Maria and I’m not accusing anyone of anything. We just disagree on this point. I’m doing well. Very busy trying to downsize. I hope I complete this daunting task soon and have time and the focus to start writing again. How is summer treating you?
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Pam, I’m happy you wrote again! I love you too. Okay, we disagree. Please forgive my harsh tone, my accusation. If only grace were poured upon my lips!
Summer is okay. My little dog is fun. The grandchildren are having sweet babies. I’m a little down with concern about my husband’s health.
Did you notice that a while ago I put a link to your post Life Sustaining Joy in a World of Thorns with a group of links called Remarkable Christian blog posts?
Your writing is very strong. You were suffering, I believe, when you wrote this and some very fine posts.
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Sorry to hear about your husband, Maria. I’ll be praying for you both. Thank you for the link and yes, I was suffering. Life in this world includes lots of suffering but we are blessed to have the joy of Jesus to keep us from being consumed by it. God bless and keep you.
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Amen, Pam. It is joy indestructible.
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I have never thought about this…. Thx for the post.
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you’re welcome, brother. thanks for giving it a hearing!
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I do believe that Christian artwork–including depictions of Jesus–can be helpful to believers who approach them properly. After all, God designed the tabernacle and the ark of the covenant and included cherubim among the items depicted. Clearly we are forbidden to worship images or to think that in any way they can be used to control God. That is the idolatry forbidden by Moses, the prophets, and the apostles. To condemn every visual depiction of Jesus in drawing, painting, mosaic, statues, and cinema would be, in my opinion, pushing God’s commandment beyond his intention. J.
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Hi, J.! I’m grateful that you took the time to read this. Usually Lutherans and Reformed Baptists disagree on this subject. I believe that we must see not only the words of God’s commandment but the implications of His words. I cannot agree that declining to visualize Jesus goes beyond the intention of the commandment. Israel was told that they heard a voice but saw now similitude. This is important. We are to walk by faith not by sight.
As a former Roman Catholic I have been dismayed that Bible Christians see no problem with making images of Jesus Whom they cannot see. Doesn’t it make sense to you that we can never really depict Him because we can never portray His Deity? (See my post under the subheading “A side note – An accusation, and a little about old arguments.”)
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J., my Italian Greatgrandpop was a mosaic artist according to my Mother, but this may just have been tiling foyers.
Lord bless you, brother! As you can tell from other comments this is an important concern for me.
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God gave permission to have these dipctions made. You cannot find God giving permission for an image of His Son. How many worship the false man-made image of Jesus in their prayers to Him? If God wanted us to make such an image He would have given a depiction of Him as God-Man on the earth. Then He would have said, go make this as a picture of my Son.
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Sherry, you’re right.
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Personally, I think this is something an individual Christian will have to pray over and think about. I think what lies at the core is the purpose of a picture. I will say when I read your post talking about this last year it made me think. I think pictures of Christ are an issue when people are turning to the picture for comfort. Yes, I get people use a picture to be reminded of Him, I get that. But I think we need to be strong enough in our walk with Him to not feel the need to have a picture nearby for strength. I think we need to look out how we are looking at the picture, what kind of priority are these images in our life? If they are a big deal, then that may easily be a problem. And you’re right, it’s possible it may stumble new believers or non-believers up.
We’ve talked in the past about that you were against my book series having a character that represented Christ, which I admit too confused me because if you’re into Christian Fantasy then…wouldn’t God and Christ be part of the story anyway, and that story would be fiction even if the story had God and Jesus in it? Though, I totally see your concern too. What I do for my stories is look at scripture so that I’m not speaking out of line. But I also hope that people have the understanding it is a fiction work, this is not truth. What I hope for is that people who maybe are intrigued by the characters that represent God and Jesus are drawn to the qualities, and those qualities can only truly be met completely when one goes to Jesus Christ and then through Him meets the Father. It’s an urge to encourage people to strengthen their walks with Christ, like the characters are challenged to do. It’s just a story, but people can have a REAL walk and relationship with Him, and I want people to see that. I want to weave in the lessons in life He’s taught me. The places where the God or Jesus characters speak are reflected in how He spoke in scripture and where He’s led me in my life. But I think in story writing it can be easy for the writer to put a twist on how they see God and Christ, and yes, that also can be misleading, and maybe that’s where your concern was coming from. 🙂
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Hi, T.R.! Your comments on the topics of images of Jesus and Christian fantasy fiction are thoughtful but I’m going to respond only to those about images. Sometime we could talk about Christian fantasy fiction if you’d like, and I have no intention of putting the kabosh on CFF and your labor of love.
Here are your words and a response:
“I think what lies at the core is the purpose of a picture.”
It’s true that the intention of our hearts is always aimportant. But what if something we do and believe is right worship or devotion or a blessing of some kind is wrong in itself?
“I think pictures of Christ are an issue when people are turning to the picture for comfort. Yes, I get people use a picture to be reminded of Him, I get that. But I think we need to be strong enough in our walk with Him to not feel the need to have a picture nearby for strength. I think we need to look out how we are looking at the picture, what kind of priority are these images in our life? If they are a big deal, then that may easily be a problem.”
Yes, it is wrong to go to images for comfort and strength. How can we ever grow up doing what a child does, finding comfort in inanimate objects when the Lord’s plan is that we walk by faith not by sight?
“And you’re right, it’s possible it may stumble new believers or non-believers up.”
These often beautiful images are a stumbling block to many.
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I’m really glad we can discuss this in a calm and peaceful way 🙂 I’ve very thankful for that.
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Me too, T.R.! You’re a godly young woman. Thank you for speaking here!
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🙂 thank you for discussing with me, even if we do not always see eye to eye. The focus is Christ and that’s what really matters to both of us. For Him, I am thankful! Glory be to His name.
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Amen, the focus is the Lord Jesus, our Beloved!
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I guess I don’t want anyone showing me something that really isn’t Him. It is also a love issue.
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❤ I totally understand that! I feel like the closer we draw to Him, the more we desire to be and connect with Him, the more we will willingly choose to let go of things that previously we held onto. I'm very cautious and aware now of things I used to look at for a sense of assurance and hope, and redirect this connection with Him instead, or put the focus on Him instead of what something was prior. I feel in the same way Paul preached that people who were hypocritical preached the truth, and this still gave God glory, if something like a picture could initially led a non-believer to want to know the real man behind the picture, Jesus Christ, I think that would be okay. Jesus can use amazing moments or things in our life as a reminder or a way to draw us to Him. We still need to go to the real source, Him, but maybe for some people these things could be a stepping stone. If at the end of the day, He receives glory from this, just like the hypocritical believers preaching the truth, then I don't want to stand in His way with technicality. That's how He has led my heart thus far 🙂
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T.R., you’ve thought carefully about these things, and your desire to please the Lord is obvious. I wouldn’t call this issue a technicality, but also know that the Lord bows down, condescending to our weakness. We should desire to please Him, have faith, and have salt among ourselves. 🙂
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Maria, could I ask what church do you attend?
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Hi, brother! Sometimes the weather and health makes the decision for us. When things are perfect, and Tom is up for the long drive, we head north to Providence Reformed Baptist Church in Toledo. Last week, I went alone to Wood County Baptist Church, an independent, fundamental Baptist Church.
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I do understand. So you prefer Baptist. We are Church of God. Just wondering, because the seventh day Adventist are usually into keeping the 10 commandments. I thought you might be SDA. So what are your thoughts re the sabbath commandment?
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Jerry, I’m a little shocked that you would wonder whether we’re Adventists because of our desire to obey the second commandment out of love for the Lord. Please don’t go on to another commandment, okay? I would simply quote to you old Reformed guys who knew both Testaments of the Bible well, right?
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Ok I won’t. I’m not questioning your love for our Lord. I don’t know any Adventist so don’t know much about them other than The sabbath difference.
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Okay, Jerry. I believe you. Lord bless you!
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Jerry, may I ask which Church of God denomination?
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Cleveland, Tenn. I think is the home. We don’t pick denominations though, we look for the place where the word is preached and the Lords love is on display. The church we are in in Bradenton has existed as a congregation since the very late 1800’s. But not in its same location. Their doctrinal statement is posted on line riverlife church Bradenton Fl.
riverlifechurch.tv. I liked the doctrinal statement because no stand is taken on the Raptures timing. There is no church that is perfectly aligned with my beliefs from scripture. I was raised Baptist. I have attended over the years 9 different denominations. Learned a lot. Never Catholic.
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Jerry, I understand completely about fellowshipping where the Word is preached. I found the Statement of Faith at the Church of God Cleveland, TN website. Thanks for answering my question!
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Jerry, we live not far from Church of God General Conference – and their seminary, Winebrenner. Is that your denomination?
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Don’t think so.
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This is something I’ve often mulled over and prayed about, myself. Thanks for your insight.
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Kathy, thanks for reading this. I really appreciate that!
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Thank you, Sherry!
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YW, sis! You did a great job on the study of this issue and the write-up!
Have a blessed evening! \o/
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Sherry, thank you for your encouragement! Have a blessed evening too! \o/
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I agree with you. Maria. Since the Good Lord brought me out of the practice of Catholicism I have noticed that there are so many different pictures of Jesus-which one is correct? There are even different-many different- pictures of Jesus within the Roman Catholic Church…which one is “he”?
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Hi, Beth! Right, which one? As research I went to Pinterest and found so many images of what is supposed to be Jesus. I used to kneel before a large crucifix in my childhood home, sister. We think that Catholics are idolators, yet use images ourselves.
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Exactly! That is why I got rid of everything that showed an image of Jesus because I do not know what image He looks like~God is not the author of confusion- we are to worship Him in spirit and truth ❤ ( although John does give a description of what Jesus looks like in The Book Of The Revelation in God's Written Word -that depiction is NOTHING like the carnal pictures/images we see all over) I do believe this is a tool of satan to confuse people when Jesus returns-as Jesus spoke about in Matthew 24…make sense?
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Beth, what you say makes sense. The verse that declares that God is not the author of confusion really fits here. And it could be that the world is being prepared to accept a final Man of Sin who resembles these images.
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Exactly!
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I agree Maria, It makes me feel uneasy when someone points to a picture, painting, statue or whatever and they call it “Jesus”, how can mere sinful hands presume that they can capture the essence of the “God-Man” in a work of art?.
Christians don’t need an image of Christ to be reminded of Him. Our very existence is in Him. He has redeemed us, made us righteous by His blood shed on the cross, we should have Jesus always before us.
PS: currently looking for a children’s Bible for my oldest grandaughter. So far I have not been able to find one without picures.
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Crissy, I agree with what you’ve said here – “how can mere sinful hands presume that they can capture the essence of the ‘God-Man’ in a work of art?” Thank you for your insights and for your recent post that gives important passages, such as, the passage about the Transfiguration and the Lord Jesus in Heaven. That post fits in with this post, I believe.
https://worldeventswatch.wordpress.com/2018/08/04/face-to-face-with-christ-my-saviour/
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Yes it does! God is so good.
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Yes! ❤
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Crissy, perhaps get your little grandchild a large print, easy to understand version – NKJV? – in a lovely color? or in a pretty case with a handle that will be like she is carrying a purse?
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Awww Maria, what a grand idea. She would love a pretty case with a handle to carry the Bible in. Thank you so much lovely sister. Blessings and prayers. 💜💜
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You are such an encouragement, Crissy!
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Thanks, Maria. We disagree on this issue but not disagreeably.
“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.” – Exodus 20:4
There have been believers in the past and currently who interpret this verse to mean ALL artwork is forbidden. But the following verse gives us the context:
“You shall not bow down to them or serve them…” – Exodus 20:5
As an ex-Catholic, I’m definitely not a fan of having Jesus statues or images hanging around, but I can see how representations of Jesus in films and children’s books can be useful without being idolatrous.
Here’s another issue to think about: crosses. Many/most evangelical churches have crosses, sometimes very large ones, in their sanctuaries, but this is a violation of Exodus 20:4 in a literalist sense. I believe many Christians come close to elevating the representation of the cross to the point of idolatry and some even cross over that line. Millions of women wear a cross as jewelry and it becomes a fetish object for many of them, a good luck charm. Why would we honor such a thing? If Jesus had been executed (of course I know Jesus offered up His life willingly) in an electric chair, would we wear tiny electric chairs around our necks? There are many Christians who are passionately opposed to displaying or wearing crosses for the above reasons. Are they right?
I appreciate the charitable discussion, sister. We needn’t close the door on fellow believers who do not align precisely with our own views on these secondary issues.
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I have also gotten rid of any crosses because there were crosses before Christianity that had nothing to do with our Saviour…know what I mean? Biblically we will read in some versus that Jesus was hung on a cross-some a tree ❤ That being said we know what ever mechanism was used He washed us with His blood ❤ We don't need to hang crosses-we need to live out our faith and profess Him in every circumstance we are allowed. Great conversation and I am not judging anyone 🙂
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Thanks, Elizabeth. I can understand your personally distancing yourself from crosses and I tend to lean that way myself, but everyone has to follow their own convictions on this. However, a cross becomes blatant idolatry when it’s used as a talisman/ju-ju/rabbit’s foot. Many Christians use crosses that what, either consciously or subconsciously.
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Should read: “…Many Christians use crosses like that…”
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🙂 ❤ Yes!
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Hi, Tom! yes, we disagree but not disagreeably. To me it seems that the last people you would want exposed to images of the Lord is children for they would learn that this is okay by reasoning that it must be okay to do this if pictures of Jesus are in my Sunday School papers.
About the cross, yes, the crosses are a violation in a literal understanding of the second commandment. We love the Cross of Christ because He died for us there, but not the physical object itself but what took place there. As you know, the cross must have been huge since if you put all of the pieces – relics of the cross – together, it would be humungous. Yes, it would be more than odd – really weird – to wear a necklace with an electric chair on it. When John Calvin taught in a refurnished Catholic Cathedral – Saint Peter’s in Geneva – they took all the images out but left the cross on the steeple. Not that long afterwards the cross on the steeple was struck by lightning.
I think we’d be better off without any of these things, being plain so to speak. But we cannot slash and smash. Among iconoclasts there’s a long history of tearing down and destroying other people’s property, which is another sin.
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Maria, thanks for all your comments. I did not know that about the church steeple in Geneva. Interesting.
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Thanks for true fellowship, Tom! Yes, it’s interesting about the steeple. You have to wonder. 🙂
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Aw, I appreciate your fellowship, Maria! Have a blessed Lord’s Day tomorrow!
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okay, bruderski! you too!
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Danke, schwester!
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bitte!
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Images of an artist’s conception of Jesus help us try to picture in our own minds that Jesus is real, but there are too many instances (I am reading Judges) where the item to remember the unseen God becomes the god of worship. When I first started reading this, I remembered taking my paternal grandfather to St. Joseph’s Hospital in Memphis for cancer surgery. I had driven on my learner’s permit with my mother with me. St. Joseph’s is the adult wing (and money making wing) of St. Jude, or was at the time. My grandfather, a devout Southern Baptist, yelled at the nun to take the abomination of the crucifix out of his hospital room. His Savior was a risen Lord. My mother apologized, but the nun laughed. “No bother. It happens all the time.” My memory is fuzzy, but I think she returned with an empty cross, but asked permission first before she hung it on the wall. I picture Jesus on the cross when I take communion. I know He rose from the dead, but I want to remind myself that salvation was at a great cost.
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Mark, it’s true that objects can attract worship, such as, the brazen serpent which even was ordained by God but then idolized. Images aren’t good helps in the end. God’s voice in His Word is truly real.
Remembering your needs, brother.
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Agreed and thanks
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You have obviously given this difficult issue careful thought. I doubt that all Christians will ever agree.
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Hi, Anna! I think you’re right, and when I blog about this it is clear to me. Thank you for taking time with this!
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Excellent post Maria!
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Cathy, thank you for the encouragement! We’ve been set free to serve the Lord!
Luke 1
68 “Blessed be the Lord God of Israel,
For He has visited us and accomplished redemption for His people,
69 And has raised up a horn of salvation for us
In the house of David His servant—
70 As He spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from of old—
71 Salvation from our enemies,
And from the hand of all who hate us;
72 To show mercy toward our fathers,
And to remember His holy covenant,
73 The oath which He swore to Abraham our father,
74 To grant us that we, being rescued from the hand of our enemies,
Might serve Him without fear,
75 In holiness and righteousness before Him all our days.
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Amen! \o/
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God bless you and your husband, Cathy!
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Thanks for following my blog; you are very kind.
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