Thank you for posting this incredibly informing article. I would add to look up Madame Guyon and “Quietism”. She was imprisoned for her teachings on the silent prayer. She had several books published including a 20 volume commentary on the Bible.
Miguel, thank you for your thoughtful and instructive post. As a young Catholic girl interested in mysticism, I read her autobiography – a spiritual autobiography. I didn’t know that she was considered a quietist or had written a commentary series. May I ask you if you were once a Roman Catholic? You aren’t obligated to answer – obviously. Roman Catholicism and church history are my areas of concern.
Bless your heart. Being a Puerto Rican, there is a strong Catholic influence upon my People, but the funny thing about that, being that Catholicism itself is not well grounded, so their teachings are easily misappropriated. So I was a Pagan (I think this will make sense), thanks to the Catholic Church. Confusion upon confusion. But I am, by the Grace of God, a Baptist, and that due to the fact that they were the ones who satisfyingly explain, and represented the story of the Gospel message to me. The main thing is the record of the Bible, for me. Good question, however, shows that you are alert in examining what I wrote. I came across the subject of Guyon many years back due to some of the writings of Watchman Nee. And even that is a delicate subject but ask away. If you visit my site you will have a decent idea of my Faith. I’m not a Catholic.
Thank you, Miguel! Just a side note that you may enjoy: my Mother and her sisters, who were first generation Italian Americans, all married men of different nationalities. My Aunt Carmella (Dolly) married Arthur Martinez, who was of Puerto Rican parentage. I say this because of love, because of missing my family, and my gratitude toward them.
I understand how Catholicism can leave people “practical pagans” and am happy for you to know the Saviour without a go-between. Yes, I will visit your site – I didn’t think you were Catholic but felt the need to be sure.
God bless you!!
Maria
No, Maria, I understood that I left that question hanging in the air, but unintendedly so. Was glad you inquired, just to be on the safe side. Thank you for the History (family). I’m left with admiration for your thought processes and caution, and concern (just full of flattery this morning).
I can only take this to mean; What did I mean by inserting the word “caution”. No, I just meant that I understood the question addressed to my appearing to side with the Catholic Church because I posted that they punished Guyon, leaving the possibility open that I may have been a Catholic reaching out to your post. (have I now muddied the waters even more? I would not put it past me, Maria. Sorry. And is it possible I have not understood; “Sincerely – what is your caution?”
That is an important article!
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Yes, it is! We need to know.
Thanks, Dan!
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Thank you for posting this incredibly informing article. I would add to look up Madame Guyon and “Quietism”. She was imprisoned for her teachings on the silent prayer. She had several books published including a 20 volume commentary on the Bible.
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Miguel, thank you for your thoughtful and instructive post. As a young Catholic girl interested in mysticism, I read her autobiography – a spiritual autobiography. I didn’t know that she was considered a quietist or had written a commentary series. May I ask you if you were once a Roman Catholic? You aren’t obligated to answer – obviously. Roman Catholicism and church history are my areas of concern.
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Bless your heart. Being a Puerto Rican, there is a strong Catholic influence upon my People, but the funny thing about that, being that Catholicism itself is not well grounded, so their teachings are easily misappropriated. So I was a Pagan (I think this will make sense), thanks to the Catholic Church. Confusion upon confusion. But I am, by the Grace of God, a Baptist, and that due to the fact that they were the ones who satisfyingly explain, and represented the story of the Gospel message to me. The main thing is the record of the Bible, for me. Good question, however, shows that you are alert in examining what I wrote. I came across the subject of Guyon many years back due to some of the writings of Watchman Nee. And even that is a delicate subject but ask away. If you visit my site you will have a decent idea of my Faith. I’m not a Catholic.
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Thank you, Miguel! Just a side note that you may enjoy: my Mother and her sisters, who were first generation Italian Americans, all married men of different nationalities. My Aunt Carmella (Dolly) married Arthur Martinez, who was of Puerto Rican parentage. I say this because of love, because of missing my family, and my gratitude toward them.
I understand how Catholicism can leave people “practical pagans” and am happy for you to know the Saviour without a go-between. Yes, I will visit your site – I didn’t think you were Catholic but felt the need to be sure.
God bless you!!
Maria
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No, Maria, I understood that I left that question hanging in the air, but unintendedly so. Was glad you inquired, just to be on the safe side. Thank you for the History (family). I’m left with admiration for your thought processes and caution, and concern (just full of flattery this morning).
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Sincerely – what is your caution?
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I can only take this to mean; What did I mean by inserting the word “caution”. No, I just meant that I understood the question addressed to my appearing to side with the Catholic Church because I posted that they punished Guyon, leaving the possibility open that I may have been a Catholic reaching out to your post. (have I now muddied the waters even more? I would not put it past me, Maria. Sorry. And is it possible I have not understood; “Sincerely – what is your caution?”
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Miguel, I understand now.
My intention with “sincerely” was just to let you know that your cautions would be read with respect.
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Wow, what a kind reception. Thanks, and Sincerely; MAO
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enjoy your day!
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Oh yes, to facilitate, aide in another possible inference (lol), I don’t believe in “Sinless Perfection”
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Right, we must just seek to please the Lord but it is all grace – you know this.
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Amen, Maria
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